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Which Cyberdesign was the best:-
"The Tenth Planet" - Cumbersome, cloth-faced specters.
 26%  [ 5 ]
"Moonbase/Tomb of the Cybermen" - Ghostly postmen, with letterbox mouths.
 15%  [ 3 ]
"The Wheel in Space" - Rubber fetishists, with a fixation for calipers.
 10%  [ 2 ]
"The Invasion" - Hard and cold gimp-zombies, who scream.
 26%  [ 5 ]
"Revenge of the Cybermen" - A bunch of idiots in flairs.
 5%  [ 1 ]
"Earthshock/Five Doctors/Attack of the Cybermen" - Spidery sadists, with a touch of Vader and Imperial Storm Trooper.
 15%  [ 3 ]
"Silver Nemesis" - Chrome plaited twats, with an aversion to gold tipped arrows.
 0%  [ 0 ]
"Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel/Army of Ghosts/Doomsday/The Next Doctor" - Microcephalic, tin pansies.
 0%  [ 0 ]
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:54 pm    Post subject: Best Cyberdesign Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By which criteria are we judging?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chancellor Valium wrote:
By which criteria are we judging?


Which looked the best. Which were the most scary.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Earthshock looked the "kewlest", but Tenth Planet are the scariest because they shit all over the borg and beat them by about 20 years. cybermen became more imperial stormtroopery as opposed to techno zombies after that

I would like to see a return, we know that the Mondasian cybermen are a different faction to the Telosians/Planet 14s, perhaps a splinter cell survived, kept the old ways alive & will return to put the shit up matt smith?

I want to see veins and icky looking juices straining around the cyberleader's face as he grasps a goodies' face in his hands and stares them down with his cold, sharklike eyes

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

None of them were the best. They all had certain aspects/parts of them were cool and worked and parts that didn't.
The Invasion Cybermen worked overall as the first run of Armoured Troop/Stromtrooper version but they lacked the "cyborg" aspect the previous ones had.
And as with all cybermen the Feet\Shoes didn't work. The redeeming feature of the new cybusmen was they atleast got the hand right, but they still didn't get the feet right and in fact probably did worse than anything done before.

The Nemesis Cybermen were probably the worst as i've stated before, they looked like fanmade ones where they managed to find/knick some origninal parts but had to cobble together the rest.

The cloth faced Cybermen I still find damn freaky as you can imagine there could be anything underneath that from played of skin to rotting greying flesh to ... well it gets progressively worse.

A mix of bits from some of the various versions would probably work but the feet would still be the problem.



What they should be looking at its stuff like Servitors and the AdMech from Warhammer 40k.

The creatures from the film Virus (that thing on the boat with Jamie Lee Curtis).

I think the problem is though with this sort of thing is you can't really show this sort of stuff as all the scary stuff is hidden underneath their out shell\armour so you either have to come up with scenes showing the "Cyber process" or do something like having transparent shells or unarmoured cybermen.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TP Cybs are the dog's bollocks - it's like the 'cloth' is actually a strong material stretched over a cyborg body.

They look like the fucking terminator under that shit, people!

Also, the human hands are scary.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm an 80s Cyberman.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

iank wrote:
I'm an 80s Cyberman.

Keep those gardening gloves away from me!
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Mike wrote:
TP Cybs are the dog's bollocks - it's like the 'cloth' is actually a strong material stretched over a cyborg body.

They look like the fucking terminator under that shit, people!

Also, the human hands are scary.

Not to mention the voices. I'm voting Tenth Planet, I think. Of the Cyberstories I've seen (sadly, the Invasion isn't among them, nor the Wheel... I think those are the only one's I've missed), I still think TP is the best.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tenth Planet are by far the creepiest as they look least like robots which we all know isn't what a Cyb is.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, TP for me too. Even now, I always think they seem to have kept something of the newness, i.e. the shock, that they must have had when they really were new.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think to understand what it is that makes the Cyberman frightening, you've got to look at the most powerful and oft-repeated elements that make up their stories. These, I believe are “space disasters,” “disease/disability” and “war”. “The Tenth Planet” has all these elements. The Zeus 4 space capsule exploding, the look of the Cybermen, the fact they say their lifespans are shortening, and the attack on Snow Cap Base, followed by an invasion of Earth.

In “The Moonbase” the Cybermen look more like robots, but the disease element comes with the inclusion of their manufactured space plague. War again is featured, with marching feet, and their intention to destroy the surface of Earth, and we have a space disaster when a rocket is deflected into the sun. “The Wheel in Space,” features a space disaster with the missing transport ship (the Silver Carrier), and there is also a meteorite attack on the Wheel. War is catered for by the Cybermen's intentions, and disease/disability by the calipers they wear.

“The Invasion” is strong on war, with lots of marching and fighting, and again they wear calipers, and one Cyberman is sent insane, which covers disease/disability, however, on this occasion, the space disaster happens entirely to them, with the missile strike on the Cyber-transporter fleet. “Revenge of the Cybermen,” has a space plague, and their attempt to crash a space wheel into Voga is both war and a space disaster. There is also reference to a past Cyberwar.

“Earthshock” has lots of marching and fighting, and again, covers both war and space disaster with their crashing of the freighter into Earth, and disease/disability is again catered for by their skinny bodies, snaking pipes and glass mouthpieces that appear to show something 'human' inside. “The Five Doctors,” features war, with the Cybermen's pitched battle with the Raston Warrior Robot, although the now opaque mouth pieces and baggy costumes reduce the disease/disability element somewhat. There is also no space disaster.

“Attack of the Cybermen,” has war and space disaster again, with their plan to crash Halley's Comet into the Earth, and their attempted genocide of the Cryons, and disease/disability, with the crazed and slime covered Cybermen. “Silver Nemesis,” lacks disease, but has war and space disaster covered by a shootout with the Nazis, the destruction of the Cyberfleet, and the landing of the Nemesis meteor.

“Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel,” has disease/disability with Lumic's illness (also some Cybermen later go insane), and war with all the marching and aspects of the Nazi Holocaust, and space disaster is catered for, to some degree, with the TARDIS crash-landing into the alternative universe. “Army of Ghosts/Doomsday,” has war, with the various battles between soldiers, Cybermen and Daleks, and space disaster is covered with the breach between two universes and the potential consequences of that, however disease/disability is missing, as the Cybermen costumes look more like armored robots than mobile life-support systems. “The Next Doctor,” features war, but this time there is no space disaster, or disease/disability.

I could add “mind control” to the above list, as it features in six of the ten Cybermen stories from the classic series, and in all the Nu Who Cyberman adventures, but this strikes me as a very generic theme, and although it can be seen as “the Cybermen turning people into robots,” it's a bit dull and obvious.

I also haven't bothered with the whole issue of the Cybermen being unemotional on the grounds that, in most cases, they are not. I can think of only two classic era stories where the Cybermen appear completely emotionless, and that's “The Wheel in Space,” and “The Invasion.” Although, the Cybermen also appear unemotional in all their Nu Who adventures.

As for logic, again, the Cybermen go on about it a lot, but frequently come up with schemes that are anything but logical. Their plans, actions and motivations in “The Moonbase,” “The Tomb of the Cybermen,” “The Wheel in Space,” “Revenge of the Cybermen, “Attack of the Cybermen,” “Silver Nemesis,” “Army of Ghosts/Doomsday” and “The Next Doctor” are completely screwy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wheel In Space voices were the best, imo. "You know ooour waaaaaAAAAys" and the suits are good actually. Although, in the early episodes they only had one ring modulator-thingy to do the voices, so Roy Skelton had to do them himself!! He still managed to make them sound good. What a talent that man is. His Dalek voices piss all over "whats-his-face" from Nu-Who.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/check/doctorwho/classic/clips/ram/wheel_in_space02?size=4x3&bgc=CC0000&nbram=1&bbram=1
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