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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.

Precisely. Rather than the fantastically badass 80s "Eradicate them!" we now have "I'm...so...cold...".
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
I disagree. The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
I disagree. The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.


That was just bloody awful writing. Silver Nemesis is probably the weakest Cyberman story from the classic series. It is just a succession of set pieces that do not mesh well together.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kambei wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
I disagree. The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.


That was just bloody awful writing. Silver Nemesis is probably the weakest Cyberman story from the classic series. It is just a succession of set pieces that do not mesh well together.

Not a story I've seen since childhood, so I can't comment, I will however say I do think the 80s Cybermen are extremely impressive looking!
Just my 2p.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey the earthshock/5/attack costumes are awesome, well fitted with a weird fishy silvery flesh look to them. The boots & hands are all that bothers me.

The nemesis ones have stupid gloves & the g suits are way too baggy - obviously the cybermen had gotten into the stone roses or something. I agree the 80s ones looked crap by then
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just think in the 80s they regressed and looked more like men in boiler suits sprayed silver than even the 60s ones somehow.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm I really don't see it to be honest, the way you could see the 60s trouser legs hanging over the shoes (cyber long johns underneath?), and generally the bagginess of the rubber suits...

Although in Liamland the costume is functional overalls & a helmet to protect the grisly, hellraiser/borg reality underneath, so it still looks cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Although in Liamland the costume is functional overalls & a helmet to protect the grisly, hellraiser/borg reality underneath, so it still looks cool

I agree, and I assumed that's what they were actually meant to be.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.


Better than having a bitch fight with camp Daleks and then being sucked into the void by the Doctor pulling a big lever.

Or floating up in a balloon to defeat the Cybergodzilla with a ray-gun.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.


Better than having a bitch fight with camp Daleks and then being sucked into the void by the Doctor pulling a big lever.

Or floating up in a balloon to defeat the Cybergodzilla with a ray-gun.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
I disagree. The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.

Yes and crushing peoples hands to a bloody pulp in "Attack" and smashing their way out of steel containers in "Earthshock" you pillock.

At least they didn't mince around their handbags with the Daleks crying emo-oil tears talking about elegance.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye that tear was ridiculous, but I like the way they included the pierrot teardrop eye detail from the Wheel cybermen.

But it's good at that! No need to sledgehammer the point home with them crying oil
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The Tenth Planet cybs are very sinister and the Invasion ones are a classic design too. The 80s versions were dreadful but thankfully we have hit top form again in the new series. That said the CO reproductions of all versions are top drawer.

Absolute rubbish.

The 80's ones, although not the best, were a good piece of design for their day and at least JNT originally hired big tall actors to play them too.

They could also sneak up on people not like the ridiculous RTD stompy remake ones with their flared trousers and emo oil tears.
I disagree. The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.

Yes and crushing peoples hands to a bloody pulp in "Attack" and smashing their way out of steel containers in "Earthshock" you pillock.

At least they didn't mince around their handbags with the Daleks crying emo-oil tears talking about elegance.
You mean those steel containers that looked like paper? And the cybs didn't cry emo tears that was a failed conversion.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
The 80s designs were visually less impressive. You only have to look at how weak and feeble the Cybermen became in the 80s in Silver Nemesis. Taken out with a sling shot.


Better than having a bitch fight with camp Daleks and then being sucked into the void by the Doctor pulling a big lever.

Or floating up in a balloon to defeat the Cybergodzilla with a ray-gun.
I fail to see how that is the case at all frankly.
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