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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:

Still, it's always good to see Troughton and a Sea Devil on screen.


Ha! I'm not falling for this a second time. Wink

Seriously though, yesterday's offering from the bowel was bad enough. I didn't fancy a second helping.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludders wrote:
B3 wrote:

Still, it's always good to see Troughton and a Sea Devil on screen.


Ha! I'm not falling for this a second time. Wink

Seriously though, yesterday's offering from the bowel was bad enough. I didn't fancy a second helping.


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still can't believe he called the Falkland Islands 'the Malvinas', I'm honestly surprised that the script editors didn't cut that out. In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just seen Part 1.

Absolute utterfuckingcuntybollocks. Rodent Transmitted Disease should be rounded up and interned for this shit.

More later.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


More a reflection about the jingoistic atmosphere of the early 80s than on RTD though. Even an ubercunt like RTD is preferable to a flagwaving Thatcherite.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pex wrote:
Tash wrote:
In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


More a reflection about the jingoistic atmosphere of the early 80s than on RTD though. Even an ubercunt like RTD is preferable to a flagwaving Thatcherite.


I'm not entirely sure the BBC has ever been Thatcherite. Even under Birt.

But in the 80's they did employ people who knew how to write.

They still do, but trying to get Dickens, Trollope and Austen to sign contracts is a bit tricky.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think the clue is in the boy's name - Santiago. I think daddy was probably a South American, possibly Argentinian.

Seems consistent if you ask me.


Even so, I think he would have known it would have been a bit of a faux pax, a bit like one of us going to Hawaii and calling their country "The Sandwich Islands".

Not to mention that Santiago is the capital of Chile, and the Chileans and the Argentines hate each others guts.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll shut up now before anyone thinks I'm Mark Thatcher.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are you currently lost in a desert?


I must remind myself never to drive a Pugeot 504 again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tash wrote:
I still can't believe he called the Falkland Islands 'the Malvinas', I'm honestly surprised that the script editors didn't cut that out. In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


Knowing that twat Davies as we do, he probably thinks General Galtieri would make a good Doctor Who.



"You're a genius. You're stone cold brilliant, you are, I swear, you really are. But you could be so much more. You could be beautiful. With a mind like that, we could travel the South Atlantic. It would be my honour. Because you don't need to own the Falklands, just see them. Have the privilege of seeing the whole of Port Stanley and Goose Green. That's ownership enough."
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tash wrote:
I still can't believe he called the Falkland Islands 'the Malvinas', I'm honestly surprised that the script editors didn't cut that out. In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


Knowing that twat Davies as we do, he probably thinks General Galtieri would make a good Doctor Who.



"You're a genius. You're stone cold brilliant, you are, I swear, you really are. But you could be so much more. You could be beautiful. With a mind like that, we could travel the South Atlantic. It would be my honour. Because you don't need to own the Falklands, just see them. Have the privilege of seeing the whole of Port Stanley and Goose Green. That's ownership enough."




Who the fuck would want to gaze upon, or indeed, own, Port Stanley?




Now Port Talbot. That's a real Port. A Port worthy of the name.


I'd buy up Port Talbot in a second.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glorious Port Talbot, home of Richard Burton and an eastern dictator.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Glorious Port Talbot, home of Richard Burton

Which one?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDarkLord wrote:
Tash wrote:
I still can't believe he called the Falkland Islands 'the Malvinas', I'm honestly surprised that the script editors didn't cut that out. In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


I think the clue is in the boy's name - Santiago. I think daddy was probably a South American, possibly Argentinian.

Seems consistent if you ask me.


Not to mention that Jo is a right-on hippy chick who's now heavily into environmental issues, and having kids with Spanish names while referring to the Falkland islands by the Argentine name is probably a characterisation detail. As we last saw her in The Green Death about to marry professor Jones and embark on a trip down the Amazon, which is, after all, in South America, this sounds like an actually rather subtle and quite clever characterisation reference, for a change.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDarkLord wrote:
Tash wrote:
I still can't believe he called the Falkland Islands 'the Malvinas', I'm honestly surprised that the script editors didn't cut that out. In the 1980s he would have been sacked and would never have found work again.


I think the clue is in the boy's name - Santiago. I think daddy was probably a South American, possibly Argentinian.

Seems consistent if you ask me.


TheDarkLord wrote:
Santiago is the Spanish name for Saint James, and is a common name throughout Latin America. He could just as easily be named after Santiago del Estero or Santiago, Rio Grande do Sul.


He explains why he's called Santiago:

Santaiago: "My name's Santiago. It's where I was born in a caravan at the foothills of the Andes."
Clyde: "They should have called you Andy."

There's no mention of a South American father. He's called Santiago for the same reason the David and Victoria's brat is called Brooklyn. It seems to me that this has nothing to do with any notion of hands across the nations but Fathead's usual wallowing in chav culture.


TheDarkLord wrote:
How is comparable? As far as I'm aware the episode wasn't set in the Falklands, so it's patently not the same. The only people who would cry foul over such a thing are the type of flag-waving idiots who voted for Thatcher 3 times.


I think you're allowing your dislike of British Imperialism to blind you to the fact that Davies is an excruciatingly shite writer who's desperation to appear right-on and edgily political coupled with a breath-takingly uninformed and insensitive cretinism leads to kak-handedly refering to the Flaklands as the Malvinas, the leaden massive weapons of destruction pun, the painfully grating levered-in gay references and the junket to Dubai.

Greywoolfe wrote:
Not to mention that Jo is a right-on hippy chick who's now heavily into environmental issues, and having kids with Spanish names while referring to the Falkland islands by the Argentine name is probably a characterisation detail. As we last saw her in The Green Death about to marry professor Jones and embark on a trip down the Amazon, which is, after all, in South America, this sounds like an actually rather subtle and quite clever characterisation reference, for a change.


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