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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Doctor Who Live Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I arrived at the Sheffield arena with my family and within minutes I was surrounded by adolescent teenagers, children and adults acting like idiots.

Anyway I walk over to have a look at the tat on sale. Key rings £3, programs £10, cardboard cutout cyberman mask £5.00, everything tacky and ridiculously over priced.

Sat down on the incredibly uncomfortable seats and let the monstrosity begin. It opens with an actually nice rendition of the tune similar to Howells but a bit more modern. From here things go down hill as we seen a poster claiming to be "Vorgs Greatest show in the Galaxy". Vorg is introduced, he's a fat bloke with a gadget that shrinks aliens to which he puts away in his collection. In short a carnival of monsters. He gloats about being the Doctors number one fan all whilst crappy Murry Gold music plays.

What happens next is pretty much, "let me show you monster X" followed by a video clip of the episode monster X appears in whilst the monster walks around annoying the audience. After this it goes back into the machine.

Eventually he pulls out Churchill played by Nick Briggs. Despite the appalling dialogue Nick works well and manages to keep his dignity. Turns out Vorg has kidnapped him to lure the doctor. This works and he then captures the doctor. The doctor is shown by pre recorded video clips but it all feels very rush rush.

Anyway more monsters and buffoonery occur and then the Doctor announces he's worked out who Vorg is, son of the previous buffoon in carnival. He warns him that the device he's using is too advanced for him. Vorg claims he built it when it came to him in a dream. The doctor vanishes after telling the audience to shout geronimo when he needs them too. To lure out the doctor Vorg inexplicable does more monster mash parade. These become interrupted by some policemen (one played by Briggs) who get killed by an angel.

After all the monsters have been shown the Daleks turn up, Vorg runs off, they threaten to exterminate the doctor. The doctor panics and it shows a sequence of all his regenerations. One over he speaks some techno babble and some cybermen arrive and fight the Daleks pushing them into the machine. The doctor says he will send them all home except the Daleks who he has time looped.

Just then the supreme appears (now this was good, it was flying, quite well done too) and shouts. The doctor asks us to shout geronimo which activate some explosions which kill the supreme. With all being well the Doctor says goodbye and pisses off in his Tardis. More Murry music plays and people piss off home, the end.

All in all, it was shit. It wasn't even a story as such, just a monster parade. Utter balls and to think this was supposed to honor the classic series. The lighting was shit, the effects crap bar the flying Dalek, and the music was Murry Gold tat so you know hat to expect. Was it worth the ticket price? No bloody way.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I can hear Robert Holmes turning in his grave.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting that they bother to use Vorg as a framing device rather than just making up some timey-wimey shit. I suppose they're catering to renegade Old Who fans as well as NuHu zombies.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It concerns me that they're going the 80s route of references to the show's history. So far it's been okay (I mean for us, it's great), but will they reach a point where it drives the audience away?

Actually, fuck it, I don't care anymore.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.


You mean you'll find an article lavished with your pro new who bias then Rani? Only a clown would ignore words of caution.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.


You mean you'll find an article lavished with your pro new who bias then Rani? Only a clown would ignore words of caution.
Not so. But you would not give it a good review even if it was any good
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.


You mean you'll find an article lavished with your pro new who bias then Rani? Only a clown would ignore words of caution.
Not so. But you would not give it a good review even if it was any good


Untrue. I've given New Who episodes good reviews at times. I also wasn't completely against it. I praise the flying Dalek and Briggs performance.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.


You mean you'll find an article lavished with your pro new who bias then Rani? Only a clown would ignore words of caution.
Not so. But you would not give it a good review even if it was any good


Untrue. I've given New Who episodes good reviews at times. I also wasn't completely against it. I praise the flying Dalek and Briggs performance.
Which New Who stories do you think are good?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
munkus wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.


You mean you'll find an article lavished with your pro new who bias then Rani? Only a clown would ignore words of caution.
Not so. But you would not give it a good review even if it was any good


Untrue. I've given New Who episodes good reviews at times. I also wasn't completely against it. I praise the flying Dalek and Briggs performance.
Which New Who stories do you think are good?


Can't speak for Munkus, but I doubt few on here would disagree that the Weeping Angel episodes have been the most successful episodes of NuWho with scary monsters (The only ones in NuWho) with good writing and direction. No one's about to claim that those episodes weren't good entertainment even if we might question the canonicity.

But the fact is, none of us would be objecting to NuWho if the quality of the show had been high. The TVM story is cobbled together and quite a bit of it is a load of old crock, but McGann is second to none and the direction and overall quality won over all but the most cynical eventually, especially once people saw RTD's version.

Watching NuWho however is like watching The Littlehamlet amateur players (Apologies if there really is such a group) consisting of three fat ladies with artistic tendencies attempting to reinterpret The Threepenny Opera in a series of tableaux while wearing dungarees and saying 'wicked' a lot in order to appeal to the 'yoof'. It's utter crap for being lazy, unoriginal, unambitious and going for all the cheap gags, the cheap thrills, the cheap emotion.

If NuWho had been created by a quality professional company and cast with real thought and an intelligent plotting that wasn't afraid to take risks instead of playing to the ADD crowd, then I'm sure we could overlook other flaws. The weeping angel episodes come closest to this.

We don't criticise it because we're vindictive. We criticise it because it is shit.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must be the most cynical. Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.

It sounded a very fair and well balanced review to me.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
Mistress Rani wrote:
I'll have to check out some less biased views online. Not that I'd go as its really aimed at kids I think.

It sounded a very fair and well balanced review to me.
It would to you. Laughing
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