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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:25 pm    Post subject: Journeys End. A complete list of why it doesn't work Reply with quote

Feel free to address any of these Rani.

1. Why did the Daleks seemingly abduct thousands of people to test a disintegration gun on a handful of humans?

2. If they had already secured other planets, why didn't they have aliens already available for testing?

3. Why would the Daleks put the mother of all control panels in a room where not only someone as untrustworthy as Davros is being kept, but also where they know the Doctor is likely to be held?

4. Why would this mother of all control panels exist? Even if it was normal and reworked to make it this magic console are we expected to believe the Daleks, who developed technology to move planets wouldn't be aware of this potential outcome?

5. Why didn't the Daleks fucking exterminate Donna when she crawled over to the panel?

6. If the panel was as easy to tweek as shown by flicking a few switches, surely the Daleks would have an override?

7. Why would all the Daleks blow up. Surely like most electronics it would have something to protect it from a surge. Similar to how fuse boxs work?

8. Why are the Daleks not being powered by static?

9. Why wouldn't the Daleks have technology to detect aliens on board their ship?

10. Why didn't jack melt or suffocate in the waste disposal unit?

11. If the Daleks destroyed everything they'd die because eventually they would run our of fuel or materials to expand or maintain operations.

12. Why was only the Dalek supreme not effected by the magic switch?

13. It is impossible to make energy just cease to be, which is precisley how this wave was supposed to work (cancelling out the electrical impulses which hold atoms together). Why is it the universes greatest scientist doesnt know thermal dynamics?

14. The time war is locked but in essence it still somewhere meaning this wave could wipe it all out too. Even if it couldn't it would drastically distroy the Daleks timeline being it would wipe them out in the year 2010. Being they invaided in 2157 or there abouts this would mean Skaro would be wiped out before the Daleks even had a chance.

15. Why would Kahn, having seen the entire Dalek race wiped out around 3 times put all the daleks together in one big happy group? Isn't that just like tempting fate? Would you for example put your pottery in one room and then place the child who previously broke the last collection in that room too? Well Kahn seems to think this is a good idea.

16. Why does the Dalek supreme even listen to Davros and Kahn when himself says "the abomanation is insane"? Even with Davros' warning is it likely the supreme Dalek would pay attention?

17. If one dalek could break the lock why couldn't the fucking timelords?

18. Why were planets taken out of time? There was no real point in doing this. Furthermore the fact the planets were stolen would have meant when they were returned the orbit they previously occupied would have changed drastically. For all we know the Doctor just condembed several planets to a fate simular to Mondas.

19. The earth shook violently so why are there no tsunamis?

20. Why when the earth shook did the bombs inside the planet not go off? Are you telling me mankind can build bomb sheilding to protect against an entire planet shacking?

21. Why when the Doctor pulled the planet home did no building fall down, power plant blow up and massive radiation leak killing all life? A bloody air sheild isn't going to stop the damage caused by the fucking plannet being pulled.

22.Why could a damaged Tardis simply escape from a Dalek ship like that especially given the Doctors warnings that the Tardis is no match for these Daleks?

23. Why is Kahn the only Dalek damaged from escaping the timewar?

24. Why did Davros use his own cells? Why not use a small sample and then clone from that Dalek onwards? Better yet use Kahn.

25. How could the sub wave network work when earth satalights would not be there?

26. Why isn't the earth in the dark ages when the Doctor dragged it back? All the satelights we depend on would have drifted off.

27. Why hasn't our moon drifted off when Earth disappeared?

28. When the Doctor returned the planets he never mentioned time. So if say Poosh went back to where it was, it would be no longer missing from when the Doctor first heard about it. This would create a paradox causing the timeline to be rewritten. Why wasn't it?

29. Why haven't sea devils and silurians woken up as a result of the earthquake? Are we to honestly believe that a whole planet shacking can't wake them up yet some people drilling can?

30. How were TVs broadcasting (eg Dawkins bit) when they were no satelights?

31. How exactly did Mickey and Chavface know exactly were to teleport to save Sarah Jane?

32. Why didn't more Daleks go to intercept Torchwood when the first lot failed?

33. Why exactly would a half human half timelord half pig know how to rewire something better than a Timelord?

34. If Donna was dying from being half timelord why didn't the Doctor die being half human? surely they'd be the same fucking thing?

35. If all universes didn't move at the same time, yet Roses universes stars were going out, it would mean at least one version of the delta wave was fired. In which case why exactly is our universe still around?

36. If we take fatheads views that there is only one race of timelords and Daleks, it would mean the delta wave would have to have been fired in our universe. This never happened, meaning Rose wouldn't have had the indication to leave meaning paradox.

37.How come Jacks coat is in one peace after being in a furnice?

38. Why was Davros effected by the magic switch yet not by it's magical blowing up effect.

39. Come to think of it why wasn't Kahn.

40. If a Daleks gun is out of use it has the power to fire bullet. Why then did they not do this when Donna stopped the guns from working?

I'll think up some more later.

Edit: New one
Being we can't get to the very bottom of the ocean due to it's pressures, how exactly are we able to build bombs which can withstand much higher pressures? Also, how exactly would a detination single reach them?


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 and 37 - because he can't be killed for some reason that escapes me.

Other than that, no idea. Don't seem to be able to remember much of this one either, except my muttering 'oh for fuck's sake' a few times.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why didn't the Doctor materialise the TARDIS around the earth instead of smashing the laws of physics by towing it half way across the galaxy?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

War Arrow wrote:
10 and 37 - because he can't be killed for some reason that escapes me.

Other than that, no idea. Don't seem to be able to remember much of this one either, except my muttering 'oh for fuck's sake' a few times.


Why would jacks immortality effect his clothes?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

40. If a Daleks gun is out of use it has the power to fire bullet. Why then did they not do this when Donna stopped the guns from working?

Actually, they fitted those in Death. They test them on a model TARDIS, if you remember.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xM002x wrote:
40. If a Daleks gun is out of use it has the power to fire bullet. Why then did they not do this when Donna stopped the guns from working?

Actually, they fitted those in Death. They test them on a model TARDIS, if you remember.


Well why didn't they do it?

Which reminds me

42. Why did the Dalek supremes gun still work?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

munkus wrote:
War Arrow wrote:
10 and 37 - because he can't be killed for some reason that escapes me.

Other than that, no idea. Don't seem to be able to remember much of this one either, except my muttering 'oh for fuck's sake' a few times.


Why would jacks immortality effect his clothes?


Er... some sort of "immortality field"... or summink? Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Answer to all questions:

Because RTD is the shittiest writer to ever step foot into the Dr Who production office. You should watch his other stories too and then you'll see how the entire story falls apart.

It's his trademark.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oops, double post.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look forward to Rani's responses. Very Happy I bet he won't even bother.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can forgive things like the satellites, but it's not as if anything else in the entire story makes sense. It's just fan wank nonsense for idiots. ( Apart from Rani ) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

43. If the wave had gone off, Dalek (set in the Doctors future) would never have happened. Neither would parting of the waves thus creating a paradox.

44. The Daleks would due to 43 be responsible for the Dalek Emporers death.

45. If new Daleks appeared in WW2 then why did this lot not detect them and go "shit lads, some of our chaps are still out there." This shows the show cannot even maintain it's own continuity.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xM002x wrote:
I can forgive things like the satellites,



Why, it was integral to the plot? No satelights means No mobile phone network for Doctor to use to contact others, and visa versa, No means of TV broadcast, No means for the software to contact the Tardis. No means for Mr Smith to pick up Dalek Signles, No way for the UNIT control room to monitor the fleet. Such a simple oversight ruins the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's depressing that you've actually given it more thought than the person who wrote it. People claim this shit is written by a genius; my dog could have done a better job. There's been absolutely no thought gone in to it whatsoever, nevermind fucking craft.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

xM002x wrote:
It's depressing that you've actually given it more thought than the person who wrote it. People claim this shit is written by a genius; my dog could have done a better job. There's been absolutely no thought gone in to it whatsoever, nevermind fucking craft.


Sad fact is I've only seen it once and yet I can notice these plot holes when I recall that one viewing. Imagine how easily I could rip it to shreads with multiple viewings?

It someone in one viewing can notice all these errors you know the person writing it is a first drafts man.
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