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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better yet than simply ignoring New Who, support more intelligent, better-written, and far less known alternatives.

So far I've read 4 of 6 Faction Paradox novels published; I've found each entertaining and intelligent, and streets ahead of the dross put about by Davies & Co. I, for one, fully intend to buy the short story collection being put together by Obverse Books, and currently slated for release in Feb of next year.

But if we don't actually buy stuff like FP, we can hardly be surprised when it drowns and all we're left with is stuff like NuWho.

Current information on the upcoming Faction Paradox: A Romance In Twelve Parts from Obverse: http://www.obversebooks.co.uk/catalogue/faction.html

Faction Paradox author Phil Purser-Hallard has various bits 'n' pieces relating to his contribution to the abovementioned short story collection: http://www.infinitarian.com/aritp.html

I'd also suggest checking out all of Magic Bullet Productions' stuff, which from what (little) I've heard of it is great: http://www.kaldorcity.com/

There are, of course, other alternatives as well. Big Finish is one. Magic Bullet, as the URL "kaldorcity.com" might imply, also releases a variety of audios continuing in the theme of The Robots of Death. Obverse, in addition to FP stuff, publish the "Iris Wildthyme" material, if that's more to your taste. Mad Norwegian Press and Random Static are also worth mentioning, and publish the FP novels (though Mad Norwegian's website is currently 'undergoing maintenance').
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tash wrote:
Vector-Victor wrote:
Making your own DW fan stuff is an interesting idea, but anything that
treads on copyright will get the BBC lawyers after you (unless it's something like a charity anthology, or a small audio distributed among friends). A non-fiction book might get by as well if you put "This publication is not authorised by the BBC" on the cover.


They rarely bother going after fan made productions as long as they are not produced for profit. Loose Cannon's recons of missing episodes are technically a copyright infringement because they use audio, photographs and footage that belongs to the BBC, but they aren't distributed for monetary gain so the Beeb leaves them alone.


Absolutely right.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the few things I still admire about the modern BBC is the blind eye they turn to Loose Cannon. I can't imagine Faux or any other litigious American megacorp doing the same for example.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludders wrote:
B3 wrote:
I think Davies is taking the piss out of fans of the show and should be ignored. He'd laugh at the shrill response evinced here. Which, I suspect, is his point.

Sad, I know, but it's best to let it go. It's been ruined by a clown, and there's nothing we can do about it.

On the bright side: Seeds of Doom is out on DVD soon.


I'm afraid i agree with B.
Besides, the majority of the fan-fic i have ever encountered, has been severely embarrassing. (And i'm not talking about Nu-Who fanfic, either)

Having said that, perhaps making audio adventures is an option for those interested in getting their own stories together. Plenty of people have done it.

http://dwexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Audio_Production_Groups

Although obviously it would require those taking part to have some acting ability, and the means to record their voices, and would need someone with the technology to do audio editing.
But it might be an easier option than making videos. Just a thought.



Since when did the Hive give a flying fuck about what Davies or indeed other fans think?

Yes of course most fan fiction is crappy, roughly 50% of professional fiction is crappy too. Who or non who.

But unless we give it a go, we'll never know what we can do.

The idea of getting scripts in is just to say let's walk before we attempt to run. They won't be for publication. They'll give us ideas from where to start with and an idea of the quality we can expect and specific points to work on.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pex wrote:
One of the few things I still admire about the modern BBC is the blind eye they turn to Loose Cannon. I can't imagine Faux or any other litigious American megacorp doing the same for example.


I think Doctor Who is a special case due to the number and veracity of the fans and the culpability of the Beeb in destroying episodes. It treats new fiction differently. Even while Who was off the air it forced BBV to change the names of the Doctor and Ace to the Dominie and Alice, and eventually stopped them using the characters at all which is why BBV moved on to (some really rather excellent) stories about the monsters.
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