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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Holy Bible is a decent album, but would be better if they had a singer who could pronounce consonants. the rest of their stuff is utter shite, and I have to agree with Mogwai about how badly they sold out, and that was before Motorcycle Emptiness turned up on a Nat West Ad.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can remember when they appeared on the scene. I thought: "Well these are shit". Time hasn't changed my opinion.

Oh, and.....

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No, this is going too far:





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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is going too far:



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveGranger wrote:
The Holy Bible is a decent album, but would be better if they had a singer who could pronounce consonants. the rest of their stuff is utter shite, and I have to agree with Mogwai about how badly they sold out, and that was before Motorcycle Emptiness turned up on a Nat West Ad.


They have never appeared in a Natwest advert. Perhaps you are getting confused with the song that is on the album called "Natwest, Barclays, Midlands, Lloyds".

I thought James did well considering what lyrics he had to deal with. Could you write a melody to this?

Arbeit macht frei
Transports of invalids
Hartheim Castle breathes us in
In block 5 we worship malaria
Lagerstrasse, poplar trees
Beauty lost, dignity gone
Rascher surveys us butcher bacteria

Welcome welcome soldier smiling
Soon infected, nails broken, hunger's a word
6 Million screaming souls
Maybe misery - maybe nothing at all
Lives that wouldn't have changed a thing
Never counted - never mattered - never be
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They have never appeared in a Natwest advert.


Quite right. It was for T Mobile Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Could you write a melody to this?

Arbeit macht frei
Transports of invalids
Hartheim Castle breathes us in
In block 5 we worship malaria
Lagerstrasse, poplar trees
Beauty lost, dignity gone
Rascher surveys us butcher bacteria

Welcome welcome soldier smiling
Soon infected, nails broken, hunger's a word
6 Million screaming souls
Maybe misery - maybe nothing at all
Lives that wouldn't have changed a thing
Never counted - never mattered - never be


I expect Mr Granger probably could. Could you write a melody to this:




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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
xM002x wrote:

They have never appeared in a Natwest advert.


Quite right. It was for T Mobile Laughing


So what? They always took the stance that if there music was to be heard and contemplated then it must be output on as many channels as possible.

Have T-Mobile made any unethical decisions?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xM002x wrote:
contemplated


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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xM002x wrote:
contemplated


Laughing


Contemplate the state of the world, as opposed to being stuck in our own comfort zones. I don't understand what's so funny.

Surely, change has to come with the backing from of a majority. Not everyone has a Doctorate in Political Science, or ever will have. That's the reality of the situation. So holding elitist views where everyone else is too stupid to understand can't ever propagate change in a democratic society.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

xM002x wrote:
B3 wrote:
xM002x wrote:

They have never appeared in a Natwest advert.


Quite right. It was for T Mobile Laughing


So what? They always took the stance that if there music was to be heard and contemplated then it must be output on as many channels as possible.

Have T-Mobile made any unethical decisions?


I stand corrected, it was T-Mobile. It was a hilariously blanded down muzak version with no lyrics, so the idea that they were doing it to get their 'idiology' heard by a wider audience holds no water whatsoever.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaveGranger wrote:
xM002x wrote:
B3 wrote:
xM002x wrote:

They have never appeared in a Natwest advert.


Quite right. It was for T Mobile Laughing


So what? They always took the stance that if there music was to be heard and contemplated then it must be output on as many channels as possible.

Have T-Mobile made any unethical decisions?


I stand corrected, it was T-Mobile. It was a hilariously blanded down muzak version with no lyrics, so the idea that they were doing it to get their 'idiology' heard by a wider audience holds no water whatsoever.


Well there is a difference between a T-Mobile advert and a Natwest advert. Laughing

Really, since when does lending your music to adverts invalidate you're ideologies? Marketing isn't exclusive to capitalism.

Although, it probably wouldn't have happened if Richey was in the band.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natwest! Natwest-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
Natwest! Natwest-Barclays-Midlands-Lloyds!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never been convinced by sell out arguments, I think if you believe something is more authentic or worthy because it hasn't been used as a soundtrack to an advert, you're just as big a mug as people who think that rock music can exact significant social change.

Not selling out & flaunting that fact is as bad as selling out supposedly is, because it's just further supporting & cementing the idea that you are defined by what you consume - we do not sell out, listen us and you're aligned with for-real-not-selling-outness, etc
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Liam_ wrote:
Never been convinced by sell out arguments, I think if you believe something is more authentic or worthy because it hasn't been used as a soundtrack to an advert, you're just as big a mug as people who think that rock music can exact significant social change.

Not selling out & flaunting that fact is as bad as selling out supposedly is, because it's just further supporting & cementing the idea that you are defined by what you consume - we do not sell out, listen us and you're aligned with for-real-not-selling-outness, etc


I'm a mug? Charming! Laughing

Actually, I don't really listen to them much anymore at all but, social change comes about through getting a message across? Or am I just a mug?

Maybe you should try making points without resorting to calling people "mugs" in future? Surely, the reasoning is obvious without me having to explain why?
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