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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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To be honest, I really doubt any of them would Rob. Apart from the fact that Tom, Colin and Sylv have all completely changed physically and Peter is the only one who can carry off his old image any more,


I'm not so sure he can, even in "Time Crash" they felt the need to write in jokes about his back bald patch due to how much of the actors hair has fallen out since he last played the part.

In all honesty, if Davison or both Colin or Tom even did come back in to the series, they would all need wigs.

McCoy probably still could get away with a more matured version of the 7th Doctor(like we saw in the TVMovie)

If ever there was an incarnation justified more than the others to return back to the series it is McGann, not only because of the shithouse small time of duration alloted towards the 8th Doctor, but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and has no finality to it.

Presumably because he is yet to be superceded by the ninth incarnation. Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
whilst this is true of the 8th Doctor, you can argue that Graces story had a conclusion.

How do you give a Doctor conclusion without regeneration? The Doctor is clearly set up for more adventures that never came Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RobFilth wrote:
but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
whilst this is true of the 8th Doctor, you can argue that Graces story had a conclusion.

How do you give a Doctor conclusion without regeneration? The Doctor is clearly set up for more adventures that never came Sad

You either tell or show the viewer what happened to the 8th incarnation and show how the 9th one came about.

Because this was never done Eccleston is no more the 9th Doctor than either Rowan Atkinson or Richard E Grant is, and most certainly not a direct continuation off from the 8th Doctor like all of the previous Doctors had been.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In all honesty, if Davison or both Colin or Tom even did come back in to the series, they would all need wigs.

McCoy probably still could get away with a more matured version of the 7th Doctor(like we saw in the TVMovie)





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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
TorchwoodAgentWamdue wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
whilst this is true of the 8th Doctor, you can argue that Graces story had a conclusion.

How do you give a Doctor conclusion without regeneration? The Doctor is clearly set up for more adventures that never came Sad

You either tell or show the viewer what happened to the 8th incarnation ad show how the 9th one came about.
the new series has already done a wonderful job of telling us what happened to the 8th Doctor.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RobFilth wrote:
TorchwoodAgentWamdue wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
whilst this is true of the 8th Doctor, you can argue that Graces story had a conclusion.

How do you give a Doctor conclusion without regeneration? The Doctor is clearly set up for more adventures that never came Sad

You either tell or show the viewer what happened to the 8th incarnation ad show how the 9th one came about.
the new series has already done a wonderful job of telling us what happened to the 8th Doctor.

Bollocks has it.
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Of course it has. The 8th Doctor was so shocked to see what his life would be under the control of RTD that he took his own life so his next Regeneration could deal with it instead.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Of course it has. The 8th Doctor was so shocked to see what his life would be under the control of RTD that he took his own life so his next Regeneration could deal with it instead.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike wrote:
TorchwoodAgentWamdue wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
TorchwoodAgentWamdue wrote:
RobFilth wrote:
but also because the 8th incarnation throws up the most unanswered questions and has no finality to it.
whilst this is true of the 8th Doctor, you can argue that Graces story had a conclusion.

How do you give a Doctor conclusion without regeneration? The Doctor is clearly set up for more adventures that never came Sad

You either tell or show the viewer what happened to the 8th incarnation ad show how the 9th one came about.
the new series has already done a wonderful job of telling us what happened to the 8th Doctor.

Bollocks has it.
ok this a theory developed by me with the help of the TV series, and a few other people on another forum.

Basically we know that the 9th Doctor was born during The Time War, that we all pretty much guessed, it is my belief that trying to rescue Davros was the last act of the 8th Doctor, and possibly what caused the regeneration, after that the 9th Doctor is born into a war, and commits that final act, the one that wiped out the Daleks & the Time Lords, this we know as the 10th Doctor said the same of 10.5 when he came up with the device to destroy all the Daleks, he told Rose that 10.5 is like how he (9) was when he first meet her.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Ecclestons Doctor was born before the Time War myself, no one else could be thick enough to wipe out not just the Daleks but all of his own people and home planet in to the bargain too.

Except of course, he failed in wiping out the Daleks!

How dumb is that? Very Happy

I can't imagine Paul McGanns 8th Doctor ever being so inept and as thick as two short planks myself! Very Happy
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RobFilth wrote:
I think Ecclestons Doctor was born before the Time War myself, no one else could be thick enough to wipe out not just the Daleks but all of his own people and home planet in to the bargain too.

Except of course, he failed in wiping out the Daleks!

How dumb is that? Very Happy

I can't imagine Paul McGanns 8th Doctor ever being so inept and as thick as two short planks myself! Very Happy
as we do not know exactly what theDoctor did in that moment, we dont know if he knew that what he did would also destroy the Time Lords as well, however it would be easy to argue that rather than being "dumb" he was simply to blind by rage to see it.

Had the 9th Doctor been born before the Time War, why would 10 say what he did about 10.5?
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Had the 9th Doctor been born before the Time War, why would 10 say what he did about 10.5?

Because he thought to himself, "I'm not travelling with that creepy clone which just popped up inexplicably from nowhere without any plot device, I know, I'll hand him over to that lusty beaverface Rose as a sex-toy present, hopefully she'll stay fucking put in her alternate-world and stop bothering me then!"
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RobFilth wrote:
TorchwoodAgentWamdue wrote:
Had the 9th Doctor been born before the Time War, why would 10 say what he did about 10.5?

Because he thought to himself, "I'm not travelling with that creepy clone which just popped up inexplicably from nowhere without any plot device, I know, I'll hand him over to that lusty beaverface Rose as a sex-toy present, hopefully she'll stay fucking put in her alternate-world and stop bothering me then!"
to be fair it would have been very creepy if he had stayed, and I thought it was cruel theDoctor acting like it was his decision to make, why was 10.5 not allowed to make his own decisions? if theDoctor was worried about what decisions he might make, then he should have taken responsibility for him, not just give the problem to Rose and the alt reality.

It was always very interesting that Mickey had been allowed to stay in the main Whoverse, but Rose had to go back.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It was always very interesting that Mickey had been allowed to stay in the main Whoverse, but Rose had to go back.


No it's not, it's just RTD not even being able to follow his own rules.
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