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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludders wrote:

I've never come across any of your posts yet. Maybe they felt they had to go round and delete them all. Rolling Eyes

I didn't post there much, I think I got banned in under 100 posts made. (If Rani had joined me over there I would have probably been banned in under 10 posts) From memory, my only real contribution was to a couple of Primeval series 2 threads.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if my posts were deleted there, however I didn't really post anything offensive there anyway, I certainly didn't let rip like I can here.

Just before I got banned it was hugely amusing to see them all gushing stupidly over utter crap like "Partners In Crime" however.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From memory, my only real contribution was to a couple of Primeval series 2 threads.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if my posts were deleted there, however I didn't really post anything offensive there anyway, I certainly didn't let rip like I can here.


Well Rob, i found that thread, and you were indeed perfectly reasonable enough in how you worded your posts, even for the sniffiest of forums. The model of restraint infact.
Furthermore, your arguments made complete sense, and all your reasoning was sound.
I did particularly like the mild sarcasm and irony of thes particular contributions:

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I'm certainly glad none of these moaning minnies are writing Primeval, what a completely sterile, anal and tedious detail series with no scope for the viewers imagination we would be left with!


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I wonder just how on earth those fans are going to cope during that year?

I know, out of loyalty to their programme they could amuse themselves by tuning in to the alternative programme which isn't on hiatus that year and which is transmitted on the rival channel and pick it to pieces regardless of content on every internet forum for the sake of it.

Oh, hold on.... Rolling Eyes


One poster: "Steev" was totally with you as well:

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Absolutely the most fun I've had on tv this week. I'm now going to lob my "it's better than Dr Who" bomb in, and see how many I can take out. Heh. But it really is. More fun, less pretentious, better fx, better actors (Doug Henshaw is mesmerising- and I'm a straight man! Hannah Spearitt is a revelation- and her boyf is great too.), more interesting plots, better dialogue, better direction (last night's scorpion vs Stephen sequence was sublime) and it doesn't have it's head up it's own arse... and neither do the majority of the producers, it seems. Love it to bits.

What worries me is that people honestly think they can get away with proclaiming it "lightweight fun hokum" and then complain when others same the same about that other sci-fi show on the BBC- which is the very epitome of that!

Anyway. Primeval! Rayyy! Bring on series three. And an xmas special- it's not too late to comission one, surely? Doesn't have to go out opposite whatever lamentable toss Cardiff serves up this year, it could be on Xmas Eve.


Furthermore, your main opponent, (a guy called MJ Simpson who's sig claims him to be a "writer/journalist/broadcaster") who makes several spelling mistakes, (we all make spelling mistakes, but a journalist should surely know better) started getting stroppy, and accused you of 'trolling', simply because you were prepared to press on with your viewpoint, one of the mods (Cousin Moth) stepped in to say:

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I don't think anyone is trolling on this thread, just defending their point of view.


As a matter of fact, there are several other posters there who are more or less on your side in that thread, including Nathan who tackles MJ Simpson big style.
But it all seems to change when the admin guy wades in with a warning about keeping it civil. (which it was on your part. You didn't accuse anyone of trolling)
He was obviously very anti-Primeval, slags it off big-time, and then the thread winds down pretty quickly.
Based on what i've seen, i can't see any reason whatsoever for you being banned. Seriously. But....

a) Rob defends consistently defends Primeval.
b) Big chief Admin doesn't like Primeval.

Go figure.

Btw, your post count was 116, so you weren't far wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Ludders and refreshing my memory.

Ah yes, MJ Simpson, I remember now. The guy who ripped each episode to bits because he had clearly missed plot information which I then had to point out to him via screen shot.

A mod took exception to this and sent me a verbal warning basically saying "If you defend this programme any more it can be construed as trolling"

I was pissed off with this and started moaning about it on this forum and the mod in question then googled my name and "roobarbs" together to get to this forum and basically data-mined information about me, particularly when I laughed at "the sad cunts on Roobarbs" who were gushing over the last 15 minutes of "Human Nature" or indeed the laughably bad "Partners In Crime"

This mod then grassed me up to Francis Bigger and/or Robin Tripp(I can't remember which) who then sent me messages saying "Oh, we're all sad cunts are we?"

I didn't respond to this as this mod (or indeed MJ Simpson) was clearly stirring the pot however I was reporting what was happening here and saying that I suspected I was about to be banned at any moment because of this Hitlerite mod and sure enough I was for the reasons highlighted in my signature.

Still, my banning seems to have won me kudos on Anaraks forum because they all seem to be aware of what a load of jumped up fascistic prats they are over there who can't engage in a lively debate properly without yelling out "Troll" as soon as they cross paths with someone of an alternate opinion.

So it can't all be bad... Very Happy

I've said it once and I'll say it again - thank fuck for THIS forum where I can have as many circular arguments as I like until the cows come home with people like Rani without bothersome jumped up Hitler mods getting involved and self-important power-mad admins throwing their weight around.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No probs Rob.
Well it was Francis Bigger who waded in with all the anti-Primeval stuff, so it was probably him that banned you.
I've seen the admin there get a bit touchy with people as soon as there's a hint of any possible hassle. Way before people get really argumentitive.
Not that i personally have been involved in anything, but there is definitely a bit of nanny state vibe over there. Like they're terrified of any kind of confrontation. Instead of allowing people to a bit of exercise self moderation as and when they see fit, they seem to step in very early on and start telling people to calm down. It just feels a bit patronizing.
As for that MJ Simpson guy, i can't say i've seen him around, but anyone who needs to advertise "writer/journalist/broadcaster" on their sig, like some big status symbol 'look how important i am' kind of thing, is the sort of thing that just makes me think 'tosser', to be honest.
There are some really clever/academic folk on this forum. I've seen discussions that make me feel like a right thicko by comparison, Laughing But i haven't seen anyone going around with "Philosopher/University Lecturer/Director/I've got a degree" in their sig! Wink
I don't join in much, i only really drop in there for a look at the news/dvd releases type threads, which is quite useful. Especially as i'm not a member of Oh Gee anymore. Or whatever it's called these days.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ludders wrote:
No probs Rob.
Well it was Francis Bigger who waded in with all the anti-Primeval stuff, so it was probably him that banned you.

Yes it was.

There was another poster there who had been stirring the pot to Francis Bigger and who had following me around and who googled me for "previous form" which was disturbingly obsessive behaviour however.

Ludders wrote:
As for that MJ Simpson guy, i can't say i've seen him around, but anyone who needs to advertise "writer/journalist/broadcaster" on their sig, like some big status symbol 'look how important i am' kind of thing, is the sort of thing that just makes me think 'tosser', to be honest.

I believe he was/is a writer on SFX, however I agree that such a signature does seem to be purely to give oneself a sense of greater self-importance and certainly had no bearing what so ever on the debate I was engaged in.

You'd think that if he was a writer on SFX he would at least watch and follow his material more carefully before criticising "plot holes" which weren't even there however, let alone accuse those who dare to question or challenge his uninformed authoritative opinions of "trolling".

Ludders wrote:
I don't join in much, i only really drop in there for a look at the news/dvd releases type threads, which is quite useful.

That was pretty much the same as what I used the site for too, I hardly posted much at all, 116 posts made in well over a years membership is VERY low for me.(could have even been as much as 2 years membership?)

Ironically they had a director who worked on Primeval among their membership and it was his on going posts on the progression of the making of the series which was why I used to go there.

In light of what happened to me, if the guy had any sense he would revoke his membership and tell Francis Bigger to "fuck off" and join a decent forum where people can defend some of the programmes he's worked on without getting silenced by mods and then banned Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobFilth wrote:
I hardly posted much at all, 116 posts made in well over a years membership is VERY low for me.(could have even been as much as 2 years membership?)


Yep, June 2006 join date.
Well anyway, you're not really missing much over there. And like most forums i've seen, the majority seem very pro NuWho anyway. There are a few on Roobarbs who are critical, and some who like myself have gradually been worn down by it's overwhelmingly crap elements, but they're in the minority.
Whilst there are many who didn't get on with NuWho from the outset, i do think it's interesting that there seem to be more and more people now, who started off more up for it, but who just got sick of all the usual populist crap along the way, and have come to see it for what it is.
Reading that old Primeval thread made that even more obvious, as even in Feb 2008 when that thread was going, there were people that were sticking up for NuWho, that have become far more critical over the last 18 months/2yrs. Ok, still in the minority, but i think more people have finally got sick of RTD. There's a lot of anticipation of change under Moffat, even on a generally pro-NuWho forum like Roobarbs.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else going to their local branch of Richer Sounds today? They're playing the new Cuntles CDs all day and comparing the new remastering with previous releases. Free glass of wine after 5.30. I'm popping down to my local branch, drinking their wine and then announcing: "Nope - still sounds fucking shit."
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
I'm popping down to my local branch, drinking their wine and then announcing: "Nope - still sounds fucking shit."


Laughing Laughing

Don't wear the T-Shirt B, it could be a bit of a giveaway. Wink

Actually, lend me the T-Shirt. I'll take my own wine and jazz or classical cd. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
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I wonder what pop band prompted the rise of Islamic terrorism


The Steve Mullah Band?


Pex wrote:
New Qaeds On The Block?


Sharia Twain?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've tried to get onto Roobarbs, just to see it.

All I get is a message saying Registration is Closed.

Which is just bizarre if true.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Professor wrote:
I've tried to get onto Roobarbs, just to see it.

All I get is a message saying Registration is Closed.

Which is just bizarre if true.

Apparently Francis Bigger, Robin Tripp and the rest of the Hitlers there are so paranoid of people joining up who don't share their exact opinion on everything (or "trolls" as they call them), that registration is now only limited to recommendations from existing members.

Coupled with the fact that Roobarbs went in to a hidden mode after a brief war with Levines forum(which amusingly nick named them "Fucktards"), there isn't really much there or any initiative for new members to join.

Personally I think any forum which can't proudly and honestly display it's wares to all and sundry in public for people to read isn't worth joining anyway.

It gives the impression that it's obviously full of sniffy snide bitches behind closed doors. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

There's an amusing thread on Anoraks forum where they spend 11 pages slagging off Retards, oops I mean Roobarbs HERE

To be honest I think I only joined Roobarbs in the first place because I liked the cartoon dog on their banner...it's really little more than a scaled down version of OG.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:
Anyone else going to their local branch of Richer Sounds today? They're playing the new Cuntles CDs all day and comparing the new remastering with previous releases. Free glass of wine after 5.30. I'm popping down to my local branch, drinking their wine and then announcing: "Nope - still sounds fucking shit."


So - how did it go then, eh?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornelia wrote:
B3 wrote:
Anyone else going to their local branch of Richer Sounds today? They're playing the new Cuntles CDs all day and comparing the new remastering with previous releases. Free glass of wine after 5.30. I'm popping down to my local branch, drinking their wine and then announcing: "Nope - still sounds fucking shit."


So - how did it go then, eh?

Wink


Sadly, I was away yesterday.

A kind friend did make me aware of this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8246313.stm


So true in many ways.

I love Fleming's line from Goldfinger.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B3 wrote:


Sadly, I was away yesterday.



Hmmm. I'll bet!

Razz Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cornelia wrote:
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Sadly, I was away yesterday.



Hmmm. I'll bet!

Razz Wink


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No, really. I was hiking up a big hill in the Peak District. Photographic evidence available on request.
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