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How good is US Torchwood going to be?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Vector-Victor wrote:
And outside Doctor Who/TW, US audiences only know one TW US cast member (Barrowman,from Desparate Housewives). If they cast compartive unknowns for the other roles it could be a problem.


Barrowman was in Desperate Housewives?!? Shocked Shocked Shocked

WTF?


Well, they were desperate.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Spam Fritter wrote:
Vector-Victor wrote:
And outside Doctor Who/TW, US audiences only know one TW US cast member (Barrowman,from Desparate Housewives). If they cast compartive unknowns for the other roles it could be a problem.


Barrowman was in Desperate Housewives?!? Shocked Shocked Shocked

WTF?


Aye. He played Patrick Logan in DH.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s8/torchwood/news/a274648/barrowman-quit-housewives-for-torchwood.html

Barrowman's also talking about guest-starring in "Glee" (a show I suspect
the LH isn't very fond of Wink ).
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't believe Barrowman got a high profile US gig. I'm crushed. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another writer gets trotted out for an interview. Not much detail on the series but a bit about Ianto Jones dying (very woodenly if I remember).

http://scyfilove.com/3862/torchwood-writer-john-fay-excited-by-the-new-world-plus-why-killing-ianto-was-right-thing-to-do/

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Torchwood writer John Fay excited by The New World, plus why killing Ianto was ‘right thing to do’
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– September 9, 2010Posted in: Doctor Who, Featured posts, Sci-fi TV


TORCHWOOD screenwriter John Fay says he is very excited about the new series, which is ‘more ambitious’ than Children of Earth.

Fay, from Merseyside, wrote two episodes of Cof E - including the one where Ianto Jones died – and is the only British writer that showrunner Russell T Davies has brought into Torchwood:The New World’s creative team.

We met for a pint in a Liverpool pub to chat about Torchwood old and new, and why he offed everyone’s favourite Welsh tea boy. I must say too how grateful I was to John for the interview and being so generous with his time.
The New World

John recently returned from three weeks in Los Angeles, where he worked to storyline the 10-episode series alongside Davies, producer Julie Gardner and fellow writers Jane Espenson, John Shiban and Doris Egan.

It was an exerience that clearly left an impression on him, and has given him high hopes for TNW.

He said: “I’m very excited about The New World.

“Like anything in life you can rest on your laurels, or you can try to push on again and achieve something new. That is what Russell has done. On Children of Earth he had a very clear and defined vision, but what he has outlined for The New World is equally, if not more ambitious than before.

“I’m very proud of CofE and it was one of the few things I have been involved with when I watched the DVDs and thought ‘this is good’. Normally I look for flaws.

“It is early days for The New World, but having met the other writers and talked to Russell, I’ve every reason to think we’ll get somewhere close to where we were before.”
Torchwood’s American Dream?

John added he has no concerns about any possible Americanisation on the show after it became a co-production between the BBC and Starz.

“I was concerned when there was talk of the Torchwood going to Fox,” he said. “Then when Julie asked me if I wanted to write for the show again, she said they were working with Starz.

“To be honest I’d never heard of Starz, like most people I expect, but after looking into it I saw that the guy who runs the network used to run HBO. That was all I needed to know.

“He has to be ambitious but has one hell of a track record of producing adult and intelligent drama, just like Torchwood. What’s more Julie and Russell are still in charge. I’m sure it will stay as people would hope.”

Meeting his fellow writers in Los Angeles was a daunting experience John said. It also gave him his first taste of the American -style production process, as the writing team worked from 9-5 each day to hammer out the elements of each episode.

He added: “I mean, fucking hell, Russell has assembled one hell of a team and then there’s me! I was very impressed by the other writers when I went in to meet them.

“I knew Jane Espenson’s work from Battlestar Galactica, while I was delighted to talk to John Shiban too because Breaking Bad is one of my favourite shows at the moment. They all really know their stuff and that kind of expertise means everyone raises their game.

“We worked from 9-5 each day to storyline the show, but in much greater detail than I was used to from working in England. For instance in Children of Earth I was in Cardiff for three days with Russell, Julie, James Moran, Euros Lyn and Brian Elsley to work out the episodes from Russell’s vision.

“That was more ‘we want it to be kind of like this’, a looser structure, whereas in America we beat out every detail of each episode and went one step at a time. It was fascinating to see that approach.”

The result of all that hard work is a story told over 10 episodes with a worldwide focus John said, while not giving anything else away. That focus will inevitably shift from Cof E given the scorched earth fashion that series ended in with the Hub destroyed and the Torchwood team split up – seemingly for good.

John said: “We are starting from scratch to some degree, but what helps us is we have got such well established characters in Jack and Gwen that people know and love.

“We will be bringing new characters in too for a new audience, and telling a story that encompasses and could affect the whole world. Children of Earth was the same, but we will see more of the world this time than then.

“Obviously Torchwood is an established show with an clear history which we will refer too, but we have to embrace people who maybe haven’t seen any Torchwood before. If you get too self-referential it can get dull, so what’s gone before will be referenced, but in a subtle way.”
Killing Ianto Jones

For John, what’s gone before includes the death of one of the show’s most popular characters, Ianto Jones, in episode four of Children of Earth.

Ianto’s murder at the hands of The 456 represented one of the most dramatic moments in the Torchwood history and prompted a massive backlash from the show’s fans, demanding he was resurrected.In fact I kept looking around the Liverpool pub we met in to watch out for irate Ianto-ites massing in a corner.
Ianto Jones is killed by The 456 as Captain Jack watches on helplessly

Ianto Jones is killed by The 456 as Captain Jack watches on helplessly

John saw this loyalty as he puts it first hand when he attended Gallifrey One is Los Angeles earlier this year, but still believes the decision to kill him was the correct one.

“Russell wanted that to happen, although they are my words,” he said. “It was absolutely the right thing to do though from the point of view of the story and what it gave to the last episode.

“The strength of Torchwood and Russell’s vision is that you don’t know the heroes are going to survive. That’s been well established now!

“That adds a sense of jeopardy to the show which leaves everyone wondering what will happen next.”

He added Ianto’s death also allowed him to illustrate one of the costs of immortality for Captain Jack.

“In my mind, I was always aware that Jack had gone through this situation many times before, and that was really interesting to me. How do you have a relationship and fall in love with someone when you know – absolutely know – you will be around to see them die?

“That’s a real tragedy that Jack has to carry around with him, as well as a fascinating weight to hang around a character’s shoulders.”

And yet despite the reaction that scene generated, John still feels it was missing … something.

“At the time, Children of Earth was the first thing I had written after my dad died and I wonder if I feel that way because I was writing about my dad in some way through that time,” he mused.

“I still think I didn’t quite nail it. There is a line there that I never managed to put my finger on, or maybe didn’t want to.”

He added: “The line people quote back to me from Children of Earth was from the scene around the Cabinet table, where one of them says ‘if we can’t identify the least intelligent 10% of children, then what are league tables for?’

“When you get something right it stays with you, and I think that line of dialogue does. In the death scene, I wish there was something like that, but the scene and episode had a very strong reaction and I’m pleased about that.

“Maybe that’s the perfectionist in me talking too. They say you should never be completely satisfied with your work because that’s when it’s time to retire, so maybe it’s a good thing I feel that way.”

John’s quest towards perfection has already started when we spoke, with the first draft of his TNW work already with Russell T Davies in Los Angeles.

What that will become is for the future though, and as we sat in the pub, I leant forward to ask him my final question, the question I’m sure every Torchwood fan would ask given the chance.

Will you bring Ianto back, John?

He pauses, takes a drink from his pint, then leans forward, pondering ………

“I’m not going to answer that Neil, you’ll just have to watch and see,” he said.

* Torchwood The New World will begin filming later this year and broadcast in 2011.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"How do you have a relationship and fall in love with someone when you know – absolutely know – you will be around to see them die?"

Torchwood... almost as emotional as owning a hamster.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"How do you have a relationship and fall in love with someone when you know – absolutely know – you will be around to see them die?"

Torchwood... almost as emotional as owning a hamster.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen paddling pools with more depth than Torchwood.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fay seems like an okay person, but nothing there would really make me
interested in watching a US Torchwood (unless Fay left out mentioning the "Eve Myles 10-minute Nude Scene" Razz ).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this week's Guardian Guide, Matt Smith is quoted as saying, "I don't watch Torchwood."

God, he's good, isn't he!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moderator General wrote:
In this week's Guardian Guide, Matt Smith is quoted as saying, "I don't watch Torchwood."

God, he's good, isn't he!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moderator General wrote:
In this week's Guardian Guide, Matt Smith is quoted as saying, "I don't watch Torchwood."

God, he's good, isn't he!

*Applause* Smith just keeps getting better!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little more character detail (including confirmation of the paedo character). Originally from Doctor Who Magazine.

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/649698/torchwood_the_new_world_character_update.html
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Torchwood: The New World character update

Simon Brew

If you don’t want to know anything about the new characters in Torchwood series 4, then it’s a good time to avert your eyes…

Published on Oct 22, 2010

Torchwood series 4 heads before the cameras earlier next year, and it's already been revealed who the main new characters joining Gwen and Captain Jack Harkness will be. But the latest issue of Doctor Who Magazine also puts a bit more flesh on the bones.

We already knew that there would be two new CIA agents in the show, namely Rex Matheson and Esther Katusi. We now know of Esther that she's "very much an optimist". She's a Christian who has a "strong faith in mankind", and we also know that she's in love with Rex Matheson.

Meanwhile, a further character is Oswald Jones, who will be a convicted paedophile and murderer. He's a man who evidently regrets his past, but is also "dangerous and clever", and is set to be pivotal to the show's plot. He is apparently "fated to become the centre of terrifying events".

We've also learned of a further new character, Dr Vera Juarez, although her role in things is yet to be revealed.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Casting Rumours:

http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/tv-news/dollhouse-acto-joining-torchwood.php

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DOLLHOUSE actor joining TORCHWOOD: THE NEW WORLD?

As you probably know, the fourth series of Torchwood is a co-production between BBC Wales, BBC Worldwide and US cable network Starz, which will see lead characters Captain Jack (John Barrowman) and Gwen Cooper (Eve Myles) moving to the United States of America for new adventures. Auditions are currently underway to find actors to play the regular cast, and a few names have surfaced as potential co-stars: Enver Gjokaj (Dollhouse) and Chad Michael Murray (One Tree Hill) are allegedly both in the running as CIA agent Rex Matheson, and Amber Stevens (Greek) might be playing CIA analyst Esther Katusi, but there’s no word on auditionees for convicted murderer Oswald Jones.

Torchwood: The New World will be a 10-episode serialized storyline with international scope, written by creator Russell T. Davies (Doctor Who, Torchwood), Jane Espenson (Buffy The Vampire Slayer, Battlestar Galactica), John Fay (Torchwood), Doris Egan (Tru Calling, House) and John Shiban (The X Files, Breaking Bad). The sci-fi drama will premiere on Starz next summer.
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Old Bob Unpronounceable there (aka Enver Gjokaj) is a plenty good actor. I see Rusty getting him in purely on Whedon credentials.
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Head of BBC Worldwide, Jane Tranter on how she will uphold BBC values.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118026311?refCatId=19
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Tranter promotes BBC values on unscripted side
'Dancing' highlights exec's expanded role
By Glenn Whipp

Moving from Dickens to "Dancing With the Stars" might seem like a jarring transition, but BBC Worldwide exec Jane Tranter sees a fair amount of continuity between the scripted and unscripted sides of her broadcasting organization.

Tranter, BBC Worldwide's executive vice president of programming and production, has worked for the company since 1997, first overseeing drama and later all of fiction -- including drama, film, comedy and acquisitions. She commissioned popular dramas like "State of Play" and "Spooks" and helped revive the classic sci-fi series "Doctor Who." In 2002 alone, she oversaw 473 hours of television.

Packaging an unscripted reality show such as "Dancing With the Stars" isn't all that different from putting together a 15-part adaptation of "Bleak House," Tranter says. Both boil down to story and casting.

"With 'Dancing,' some of the celebrities are well-known, and some you're presenting to the audience for kind of the first time," she says. "The audience is following their journey, and to get through to the audience, you have to tell a story of that journey. You have to find a way to insightfully reveal character and then package the Monday night show to tell a soap-operatic story."

That narrative sweep is a distinctive signature of the American version of "Dancing," a show licensed to more than 35 countries worldwide. But it only works, Tranter says, if you have the proper mix of "characters." Here again, she draws upon her background on the scripted side.

"My mantra on casting is you have to have courage and, if necessary, cast late," Tranter says. "You wait and you wait and you wait, and that's the way magic normally happens -- through courage and patience and … a little bit of fear."

BBC Worldwide revolves around "Dancing" but has produced a number of other unscripted programs recently, too, including NBC's "Great American Road Trip" and the makeover show "What Not to Wear," now in its seventh season on TLC. A "Dancing" spin-off, "Skating With the Stars," debuts later this month.

The American version of the long-running U.K. car show "Top Gear" also shifts into drive in November on the History Channel, and Tranter says BBC Worldwide has two other untitled reality programs in production, one for TLC, the other for Oprah Winfrey's network, OWN.

Where Worldwide is making its greatest strides, Tranter says, is on the scripted side. The broadcaster is producing a new series of the BBC's "Doctor Who" spinoff "Torchwood" for Starz and has a number of other shows in development.

"For a company that's only been in existence 20 months, we have a very large sold scripted development slate," Tranter says.

The goal, Tranter adds, is to create shows that get sold and get people talking while upholding the values of the BBC.

"Those values can be funny and witty and warm and audacious and bold and daring -- but never unsavory," Tranter says. "I think you see that embodied in 'Dancing,' which just shows that those BBC values, when cut through with entrepreneurial charm and spirit, can really reach an audience."


So no unsavouriness in US Torchwood then. Oswald Jones must be one of those nice paedo characters.
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